Berlin’s S-Bahn often runs along mainline alignments, but it has exclusive tracks. Union Station consists of 2 terminals: one for trains going north, the other for trains going south, so through running would need a lot of new infrastructure. A fix for now would probably be to run more 15-car trains, though I wonder what’s stopping them. Auf der Strecke zwischen Düsseldorf und Krefeld (U76) wird teilweise noch mit Bistro grfahren. S-Bahn. Hamburg lasse ich ansatzweise (in norddeutscher Verbundenheit) auch noch gelten, da man dort das hier erfolgreiche System wirklich 1:1 übernommen hat. Von den vier S-Bahn-Linien (S6, S11, S12, S13) wird eine (S6) m. W. durch die S-Bahn Rhein-Ruhr im Alleingang bewirtschaftet (= gut erkennbar, an dem für Köln ungewöhnlichen Fuhrpark), die S11 scheinbar gemeinsam (= einige 422er tragen das Logo „S-Bahn Köln“, sind jedoch in Düsseldorf stationiert) und lediglich die S12 – und die S13 fungiert ja eigentlich nur als deren Verstärker (= von der Flughafenanbindung abgesehen), wird im Alleingang betrieben. Combining fare systems and yield management on HSR is in something of a contradiction with each other. Die S-Bahn war eine Parallel/Folgeentwicklung zur Straßenbahn, die durch höhere Transportgeschwindigkeit und höhere Transportkapazität geglänzt hat, da sie eigene Infrastruktur bekommen hat. Und dann noch Gleichstrom, was ja eigentlich keiner will. -- Als einzige Schnellbahn in Deutschland verwendet die Hamburger S-Bahn sowohl Gleichspannung (1200 V), die … For example, their Kanto area service is loosely mashed into Fukushima area service at the northern end of the Kanto and into Tokaido corridor service in Shizuoka region operated by JR Central at the southeastern end of the Kanto, and the Shizuoka region service is interlined with Nagoya region service. One of the reasons why Yokosuka Line service is not so frequent during the morning peak hour is because all-reserved trains operating through Hinkaku Line segment of the Yokosuka Line, like Shonan Liner, Ohayo-Liner Shinjuku, and Narita Express (https://tetsudoulab.com/yokosuka-konzstsu-asa/). In Paris, the distinction between Transilien and the RER is about whether there is through-running, and thus some lines that are RegionalBahn-like are branded as RER, for example the entire RER C. Moreover, with future extension plans, the RER brand will eventually take over increasingly long-distance regional service, for example going east to Meaux. Berlin S-Bahn’s longest line that I could imagine (a hypothetical long S1 from Potsdam to Oranienburg) is only about 38 route-miles. I’ve ran these numbers a while go the total numbers of passenger between Manchester and Paris would not fill 3 trains a day. That has been grade separated for a long time too. There’s also the Sotetsu Link project, but that won’t really help city center since it just allows passengers to bypass the outer suburban transfer nodes but still dumps them at Shinjuku and Shibuya. In London, two of the three busiest Underground segments in the morning are Waterloo -> Bank and Victoria -> Green Park, both taking passengers from a giant rail terminal to city center (the third is Bethnal Green -> Liverpool Street). But perhaps the best example of a regional rail network that really takes on lines of both types is that of Tokyo. These mostly aren’t luxuries that private railways have – not even Odakyu with their 4 track section. And yet, the rapid transit services running on the Yamanote, Keihin-Tohoku, and Chuo-Sobu Lines are not the same as the highly-branched network of faster, longer-range lines like Chuo Rapid, Yokosuka, Sobu Rapid, and so on. Change ), You are commenting using your Twitter account. But in New York, this is the only way to guarantee good regional rail service; anything else would involve short- and long-range trains getting in each other’s way at Penn Station. (This project is now dead, but its vestigial funding is being used to support the proposed extension of the Norristown High Speed Line to King of Prussia) Almost as weird, or perhaps weirder, was the Cross County Metro, which would’ve run over a mix of trackage from Trenton to Downingtown, although I’m not sure if it would’ve used electrical multiple units or the same light rail vehicles as the Schuykill Valley Metro. MLIT’s statistics here (in Japanese though): http://www.mlit.go.jp/common/001299668.pdf (I estimate 100% crowding to be 2-3pax/m2, while 200% should be 6-7pax/m2). Typisch für eine S-Bahn (die nur in Berlin und Hamburg, auch wegen der Stromschienen, ein komplett selbstständiges System darstellen) ist ein Taktfahrplan. S-Bahn. In Richtung Aachen endet sie in Düren, wo dann der Abschnitt Düren <=> Aachen – nebst RE 1 (NRW) - durch die „euregiobahn“ (RB 20/NRW) – mit Umweg – bedient wird (2). As with many this-or-that posts of mine, the distinction is not always clear in practice. – Majority of Tokaido Main Line trains in Shizuoka region and local trains in Nagoya region within JR Central had no bathroom in 90s (some trains used to run from Atami to Hamamatsu or Toyohashi, very long distance). The Lansdale/Doylestown and Manayunk/Norristown lines are the remnants of the Reading’s routes to the Lehigh Valley and Pottsville (via Reading), respectively. As you mention, in Germany and Switzerland, “Regional” may mean inter-city. Only problem is the massive cost of new high speed tunnel either under or around London for not that many trains. Running local from New Haven to Trenton would take almost four hours. The Munich S-Bahn (German: S-Bahn München) is an electric rail transit system in Munich, Germany. Swap one of the southern LIRR branches for the Port Washington line, the southern one gets Wall Street or Penn Station instead, the Port Washington can have every ten minutes to Wall Street, a good thing because all the people in northeastern Queens who are schleping on the Flushing line and clogging Grand Central or Times Square so they can go downtown won’t. If passengers can choose any of those trains operating on the same rail corridor only depending on the travel purpose and distance traveling but without getting forced to pay completely different fare, actual frequency of the service could be potentially increased (without running too many trains) compared to doing without service or fare integration. Stadtschnellbahn, міська швидкісна залізниця; рідше від нім. Or attempt to open standard-gauge DMU extensions down freight corridors because BART technology is too expensive. Yeah, so Berlin’s S-Bahn incompatibility with mainline electrification is definitely a distinguishing feature, as is Hamburg’s, and as is the Watford DC Line. -;), Jogi, Freitag, 22.07.2011, 15:57 (vor 3543 Tagen) @ Thalyseo, Ne, ich meinte die Preise sollen vor und nach der S-Bahn Einführung verglichen werden. Change ), You are commenting using your Facebook account. Das ist eigentlich seit der Elektrifizierung der S-Bahn in Hamburg und dem "Urvater" Berlin so. Britain joining Schengen would make a lot of things easier. ), “the Shinjuku, Namboku and Fukutoshin lines have <20tph in peak!". Also, if one can bunch up and interline all rail traffic on one corridor and make all trains run on a double-track rail line, both passenger volume and train traffic density would stay high, it would increases not only utilization of the track capacity and infrastructure significantly but also the potential of the rail line. The Hamburg S-Bahn is a suburban commuter railway network in the Hamburg Metropolitan Region.Together, the S-Bahn, the Hamburg U-Bahn, the AKN railway and the regional railway form the backbone of railway public transport in the city and the surrounding area. Ja von oben schon, aber die fährt ja teilweise mit 15kV/16,7Hz Wechselstrom auf Gleisen von DB Netz und teilweise mit 750kV Gleichstrom auf AVG-eigenen Gleisen. Dieser Beitrag gibt (sofern nicht anders gekennzeichnet) allein die Meinung der Verfasserin wieder Zähl noch die "Ortenau-S-Bahn" dazu, die mit RegioSchüttlern munter durch Baden scheppert ;), NIM rocks, Freitag, 22.07.2011, 00:04 (vor 3544 Tagen) @ Jogi. On most lines, the answers to both questions is yes: there is an urban rail service need, either because there is no subway service (as in New Jersey) or because there is subway service and it’s overcrowded (as on the 4/5 trains paralleling the Metro-North trunk and on the Queens Boulevard trains paralleling the LIRR trunk); but at the same time, there are key stations located quite far from the dense city, which can be either suburban centers 40 km out or, in the case of New Haven, an independent city more than 100 km out. Beides besser als die S-Bahn-Marke mit Stundentakten zu verwässern. to Long Beach/Far Rockaway/Babylon I think blurring the boundaries between regional and more RER like trains probably usually is utility-maximizing (which typically is mostly about organization and culture). And it is the same in Genève. And it could make life hell for long-distance passengers. Also, if the time between station stops on a given service is greater than 10 min (possible in the outer reaches of a suburban network), there may be a case for having lavatories. And still an awful lot of trains going out 50-100 km. In Tokyo, before Ueno-Tokyo opened, the most crowded rail segment was on the Yaanote + Keihin-Tohoku Lines from Ueno to the south. For some reason Tokyo Metro has a moratorium on new subway lines in place, and Toei’s financials are pretty bad, so you won’t really see that happening. Would opening ICEs to intra Berlin travel on intra Berlin tickets help? The main reason for using broad gauge was stability and ride comfort at high speeds (BART does get up to 110 km/h on some of the suburban segments). Babylon, for example, will get at least 18 trains per hour at 50 km out. Hallo, If Sunnyside Yards and the Westside Yards didn’t exist it might make more sense but they do. Deutsche Bahns regional and local trains offer quick and cheap transport throughout Germanys regions. What is your threshold for calling a city large? In other cities, I might come to different conclusions – for example, I don’t think through-running intercity trains in Chicago is a priority. Does the line connect to important outlying destinations for which high speed would be especially beneficial. Tens of billions of projects all competing for the same pot of money. durchgehend elektrifiziert – nicht geeignet ist, um bis Hennef durchgezogen zu werden. Single-core metro regions are rather small, except for Berlin. Outside of a Verkehrsverbund, a local is an R. RE is “Regional-Express”, meaning that it stops only at regional centers. The single metro line is fully segregated, and there is some segregation between S-Bahn and longer-distance services, but this is far from complete. Andere technische Umsetzunge zur Erreichung des selben Zieles sehe auch ich nur in Frankfurt, München, Stuttgart und Rhein/Rhuhr. Auch aus diesem Grund haben S-Bahntriebwagen dort es kaum über den Prototypenstatus hinausgebracht. Für mich zeichnet sich eine S-Bahn nur durch dichten Takt und kurze Halteabstände aus. One to Oerlikon which is used by most trains in that direction, S-Bahn and long-distance—except S24. Meh. For Walkability and Good Transit, and Against Boondoggles and Pollution, I talked about this dilemma in Boston’s context in 2012, I call for complete through-running in New York, https://www.j-cast.com/tv/2013/04/26174019.html?p=all, http://www.mlit.go.jp/common/001299668.pdf, https://tetsudoulab.com/yokosuka-konzstsu-asa/, Stuttgart 21’s Impending Capacity Problems and Timed Connections | Pedestrian Observations, The Different Travel Markets for Regional Rail | Pedestrian Observations, Empire State High- and Low-Speed Rail | Pedestrian Observations, What Europe Can Learn From Asia | Pedestrian Observations, Some Notes About Northeast Corridor High-Speed Rail | Pedestrian Observations, The Limits of Regional Rail | Pedestrian Observations, When Should Cities Separate Short- and Long-Range Commuter Rail? So total 16tph, 10 go to Tokyo Station and 6 to Shinjuku. What kind of dytopian future does one branch of the Morris and Essex lines need four tracks? With electric trains and level boarding. Philadelphia does have a sort of RegionalBahn line in the form of the Atlantic City Line, which has achingly poor frequencies is pretty troubled on balance. Nur hier würde ich gerne nochmal einhaken: Tja. However, if the suburban service has low frequencies, say less than 4 tph, lavatories should be provided. And in the case of Tokyu, they’ve gone all in – nearly every train on the Toyoko, Meguro and Den-en-toshi lines run through to the subway. JR East and the Ueno-Tokyo Line is just keeping up with the Kardashians here (plus most JR East commuter vehicles have a wider loading gauge and no end doors so they’re not permitted on the subway network anyway). At the S-Bahn Berlin ticket machines, you can buy tickets with a girocard or credit card and a PIN number. And things south/west of Penn Station Newark get West 4th Street but not Wall Street. And then there is the Fernverkehr (essentially IC/ICE etc. The Munich S-Bahn was built simultaneously with the U-Bahn, and there is only one missed connection between them, The Berlin S-Bahn and U-Bahn were built separately as patchworks, but they too have one true missed connection and one possible miss that depends on which side of the station one considers the crossing point to be on. This means that transportation planners have to decide whether to use existing mainline tracks for S-Bahn or RegionalBahn service. Der Verlauf dieser Linie entspricht –von den zusätzlichen HPn abgesehen – eigentlich dem des RSX (RE 9/NRW), allerdings an beiden „Enden gekürzt“: In Au (Sieg) wird der RSX auf dem verbleibenden Weg nach Siegen durch die RB 95“(1) [= Au (Sieg) <=> Dillenburg] „begleitet“. It’s not two tracks of U-Bahn and two tracks of S-Bahn that schedules itself around twice an hour intercity. Bei der derzeitigen Situation (eine Stammstrecke) wird es wohl eher auf eine Flügelung der S2 in Dachau hinauslaufen. Downtown Providence is the largest job center served by the MBTA outside Boston; the city ranks third in New England in number of jobs, behind Boston and Cambridge and ahead of Worcester and Hartford. Adding on-board bathroom requires more than adding bathrooms on trains. With through-running, those non-work-bound passengers could stay on the trains entering to the subway section and go to the flagship terminal stations of other railways. Wobei sich Hamburg mit der Stader Düdelei (im Prinzip gut, für die reine Lehre schlecht) und Berlin mit einer gewissen ...Unzuverlässigkeit auch aus diesem Kreis abmelden. Typically long distance trains are called Zug, while local trains are called S-Bahn, Regionalbahn, Stadtbahn, or similar. An alle andren natürlich auch ein Danke. S-Bahn ist die Abkürzung für den historischen Namen Stadtschnell-Bahn oder auch einfach nur Schnellbahn. The difference between an S-Bahn and a subway is merely that the subway is self-contained, whereas the S-Bahn connects to suburban branches. FWIW, Switzerland lets you do that between Zurich Hbf and the airport if you have a city-airport ticket and it’s fine, the dwell times don’t suffer for it and a normal city ticket doesn’t give you a seat reservation if no seats are available. The biggest exceptions are the Fairmount Line through Dorchester and the inner Fitchburg Line through suburbs of Cambridge toward Brandeis. Fast service between Providence and Boston is obligatory. It’s not the same as the RER A and B or most of the Berlin S-Bahn, with their 10- and 15-minute branch frequencies and focus on the city and innermost suburbs. I guess your Boston example of building subways parallel to the heavy rail lines and its impacts to heavy rail potential covers both of these points above. Or it’s six tracked to Stamford and beyond. Die Stadtbahn KA bekommt ihren Saft auch von oben. Aber sie waren eine Aufwertung der vorhergehenden Regionalbahnen und sind erfolgreich. IR is “Fernverkehr” (long distance services), which is run at full responsibility (including financial responsibility) of the operator (essentially SBB). natürlich (;-)) sind nur Berlin und Hamburg echte S-Bahnen: eigenes Vollbahnnetz mit dichtem Taktverkehr, das eigen bleibt, wegen der Stromversorgung. Die S-Bahn (S) setzt DB Regio vor allem im Stadtverkehr von Ballungsräumen ein. Das ist gar nicht so einfach zu beantworten, denn gerade bei den S-Bahn-Netzen gibt es große Unterschiede. At the very least, have trains pass through Union Station rather than have them sitting idle all day long. Vieles von dem, was sich heute S-Bahn nennt, sind einfach umbenannte Nahverkehrsverbindungen, die auch in der letzten Zeit schon vertaktet waren und unter den verschiedensten Bezeichnungen liefen, exemplarisch in Bremen: als CityBahn und als StadtExpress. Ab ca. Munich S-Bahn (bahasa Jerman: S-Bahn München) adalah sistem jaringan angkutan cepat kereta listrik yang terdapat di Munich, Jerman. Not really. Now, what is the difference between an IR and an RE? Once you’re on British soil you can claim refugee status, I assume. Landliebe, das ist doch so eine Naturmilchimage-Gute-Essen-Landmarke, da passt doch eine Ferkeltaxi-Bimmelbahn viel besser zu, und zur anonymen Massenware Ja-Joghurt das effiziente und urbane Massentransportmittel S-Bahn". I don’t think those are counted in the capacity statistics. I stand corrected – Seibu does run a 4tph all-local service from Ikebukuro to Toshimaen (on a branch line one stop from Nerima where the subway merges with the Seibu line), but that’s not really useful, is it, given that a lot more capacity comes from the subway than is freed up by trains taking the Toshimaen branch? bearbeitet von NIM rocks, Freitag, 22.07.2011, 00:29, Nicht zu vergessen: But there are exceptions such as the RB75 between Wiesbaden and Darmstadt, or the S6 between Mannheim and Mainz. And only one exclusively for S-Bahn throughrunning, used by half the lines. In particular when metro-areas become huge, such as Tokyo, being able to get off at an earlier stop than the classical central station can often save very much time. Alternating with every ten minutes to Midtown.. change at Woodside for Grand Central would likely work best. By the way, the reason why Tokyo Metro went into moratorium in line construction or extension is the privatization (happened already) and future IPO. So, das beantwortet hoffentlich deine Frage ;) Etwaige Doppelantworten und Überschneidungen zu meinen Vorpostern bitte ich zu entschuldigen ;). :), Thalyseo, Freitag, 22.07.2011, 14:46 (vor 3543 Tagen) @ Jogi, Hm, da müsste man doch glatt mal die Immobilienpreis in Herchen (= bedient durch NRW-S12) mit denen in Niederhövels (= bedient durch RB 95/NRW) vergleichen. Using different language, I talked about this dilemma in Boston’s context in 2012. The solution is to get people in Eastern Queens and Western Nassau off the subway. In many places they do not (e.g. S1 S Wannsee S Oranienburg. It seems to me that there is a small difference between London and New York: The latter one is in the middle of the NEC, while London is close to the end of the country. It might be challenging because of the way Japanese private railways operate as business. One problem around Hanover is that freight trains go through the city, there’s no freight bypass. Re: Wo liegt der Unterschied zwischen U-Bahn und S-Bahn 17.11.2006 18:58 Wenn deine Erfahrungen auf den letzten zwei Wochen morgens um 8 beruhen, ist vermutlich doch die Langsamfahrstelle Rothenburgsort Schuld. - S-Bahn in den meisten Fällen andere Spurweiten (Ausnahmen, die mir spontan einfallen, sind Rostock, Leipzig und Dresden) Nö, das waren irgendwelche Regionalzüge. Change ). In den Kerngebieten von Ballungsräumen, in denen auch andere Zuggattungen wie die Regionalbahn und die S-Bahn verkehrten, bediente der Stadt-Express jedoch nur die wichtigsten Bahnhöfe. The metropolitan layout of Germany is different from that of the English-speaking world or France. Regional trains (RB, IRE, RE) and S-Bahn services operated by DB AG and other railway undertakings in Mecklenburg-West Pomerania. Das Konzept des Stadt-Express beruhte darauf, das weitere Umland von Städten und Ballungsgebieten zu erschließen, sodass dort jeder Bahnhof angefahren wurde. The airport is the terminus though, so in most cases long distance passengers disembark at Wien Hbf and then the train effectively becomes an airport express for travelers from Vienna. Metra isn’t really intercity but merging the north and south Metra lines always seemed like a no-brainer to me. If it often saves time to get off at an earlier stop, it’s likely to oftem save the same amount of time to get off a later stop, if origins and/or destinations are equally spread around the metro area. [Currently, Babylon gets 14 tph at peak.] Bei allem unter 10 Minuten brauche ich kein Fahrplan und gehe einfach hin. in der Regel warten S-Bahnen nicht, um den Takt nicht zu gefährden... mit natürlich vielen Ausnahmen. intercity) trains. Allerdings gibt es mittlerweile wie bei der Straßenbahn auch Überland-S-Bahnzweige. Sydney now mirrors the German model in some ways, as it has a metro (since May this year), an S-Bahn (Sydney Trains, confined to the Sydney metropolitan area), a Regionalbahn (NSW Trainlink Intercity, with services to the surrounding region up to about 150-200km from Sydney) and an intercity service (confusingly called NSW Trainlink Regional). A regular train ticket does not come with a seat either. Sehr schön zu sehen ist dies derzeit auch in München, dort würde man auch gerne auf mehreren Außenästen zusätzliche Regionalzüge fahren (beispielsweise München-Freising), aber nachdem die S-Bahn München Narrenfreiheit hat, wird alles der S-Bahn untergeordnet. Weirdly, through the end of the last decade, SEPTA was pursuing restoration of service to Reading through its Schuylkill Valley Metro projects, but in the form of a light rail system that in some iterations would have been street-running in Center City. On the other hand, in some places such as Taiwan, the older legacy main rail system has basically been converted to a RER/S-Bahn like countrywide system (it seems as some legacy railways in Japan function in a similar away, e.g. I am older now, but still running against the wind... fjk, Freitag, 22.07.2011, 09:17 (vor 3543 Tagen) @ Kai_ME, Jogi, Freitag, 22.07.2011, 09:53 (vor 3543 Tagen) @ fjk. JR East network in Kanto/Greater Tokyo Region is a good example of this as you mentioned. With electricity since the 30s. However, Providence benefits from lying on the Northeast Corridor, which can provide such service if the regional trains are somewhat slower; this is the main justification for adding a handful of infill stops on the Providence Line. 18 an hour between Grand Central and Jamaica is 6 an hour at Floral Park, 6 an hour at Valley Stream via Locust Manor and 6 an hour via St.Albans. – slower long distance IR (with a few RE leftovers) Welcher Ortenauer, der schon mal in Berlin oder Hamburg unterwegs war, fällt drauf rein? Sie fahren mit RegioSchuttles und sind ansonsten eher "S-Bahn light". S-Bahn? There are 6-14 stations on the trunks in the examples to keep in mind, often spaced toward the high end for rapid transit so as to provide express service through city center, and all trains make all stops, running every 3-5 minutes all day. That’s the 13th largest city in the country with a population of more than half a million. Discover Germanys most beautiful regions on our trains. Building additional tunnels to relieve the worst bottlenecks in the city’s transport network could open the door to connecting every Transilien line to the RER. Accepted payment in detail: Coins: 5, 10, 20 and 50 cents; 1 and 2 euros In München, Frankfurt und Stuttgart siehst Du auch ein weiteres Merkmal: Die Konzentration auf ein Zentrum, wobei die Bahn auch ins Stadtzentrum fahren soll. I blogged about the Rhine-Neckar six months ago as one such example; Frankfurt is another, as the city is ringed by old cities including Darmstadt and Mainz. Kommt eine neue Stammstrecke, wäre eine zweite S-Bahnlinie bis Dachau (und weiter nach Altomünster) denkbar, da ab Dachau in der HVZ ja auch schon Takt 10 gefahren wird. ;), Oscar (NL), Eindhoven (NL), Freitag, 22.07.2011, 00:15 (vor 3544 Tagen) @ Jogi, Nicht zu vergessen: Das größte Unterscheidungsmerkmale ist eigentlich, dass S-Bahnen nur bestimmten Strecken verkehren während die RB das Grundangebot ist, was überall sonst verkehrt. If you added in Birmingham to the mix you get maybe a total of 5 trains a day to Paris. Bahnhof Potsdamer Platz von Regionalbahn und S-Bahn Berlin. Line 2: New Jersey to ARC Alt + Grand Central to Highbridge/New Haven Also: Nicht überall, wo S-Bahn draufsteht, ist auch S-Bahn drin. Bus service is also available– just look for the signs in the terminal. Die Bundesbahn hat es für ihren ET420 an sich übernommen. There’s only one commuter line in the Bay Area BART could realistically utilize, and that’s the current Caltrain line. Bis heute hat sich Popularität der S-Bahn als Marke so weit gesteigert, dass viele Metropolregionen und solche, die es gerne wären, ein S-Bahnnetz ins Portfolio schreiben. The one direction in London where it might make sense is already routed around to the north-east of the city, into St. Pancras Intl. S-Bahn. schmidti91, Freitag, 22.07.2011, 00:38 (vor 3544 Tagen) @ NIM rocks, Jogi, Freitag, 22.07.2011, 00:28 (vor 3544 Tagen) @ vincent – via zu elektrifizierender „Eschweiler Schleife“ – und statt des RB 20-Flügels, und zugleich die S8 (= S-Bahn Rhein-Ruhr) ab M´Gladbach – statt RB 33 – bis Aachen Hbf. >I don’t think through-running intercity trains in Chicago is a priority. If you have a valid ticket, you can take any train between Genève Aéroport and Genève Cornavin. Da zuckelt dann auch mal ein um vier (!) *Neustadt-Donaueschingen wird aktuell mit IRE n. Ulm und RE n. Rottweil mit VT 611 und 218+ n-Wagen (ein Umlauf Sa+S) bedient. Niemand fährt nun S-Bahn weil er schon immer mal mit Gleichstrom fahren wollte. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Chuo Rapid or Sobu… is it just a reverse-branching-ruins-everything artifact limiting capacity? The danger would be blowing out the dwell times in Berlin if loads of passengers for intra-city trips decide to board. Some of the other companies use different schemes.
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